tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2845542372194388239.post8572380153499390232..comments2023-06-09T05:57:04.222-07:00Comments on Jesus meets Kant: Morally I'm Pro-Life, Legally I'm not, and why Pro-Lifers need to calm downAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14748192218402571363noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2845542372194388239.post-49959004086720317122014-07-15T18:43:25.040-07:002014-07-15T18:43:25.040-07:00agreed.agreed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14748192218402571363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2845542372194388239.post-73820987187106600972014-07-15T10:30:29.151-07:002014-07-15T10:30:29.151-07:00I think that in order to say that men are trying t...I think that in order to say that men are trying to control women's bodies, the men making the decisions would have to be consciously or at least subconsciously wanting to control women's bodies. If you asked any man that opposes abortion, assuming that they are being honest, most would not say because I want to control women's bodies. It seems absurd. I understand that women are more affected by this, but as you already said father's have a say too.<br />Also, I don't see it as a choice that affects women's bodies. Its about a separate life that happens to be inside a woman. Unless the woman's body is being harmed by the fetus the issue is about another life. <br />I agree with you on the issue. I am personally pro life, but legally am pro choice. My legal opinion is mostly based on pessimism. There are too many people having babies that shouldn't be having babies. I think the better solution is sex education. <br />If anything, I would say that men are trying to control women's life choices. A man does not know what its like to have a baby. Of course neither do I, but I do know the fear of even thinking about having a baby. I've contemplated the change my life would take. What if I was on birth control, took it properly and still got pregnant? If I was poor and struggling to make ends meet? I don't think I would be to keen on anyone telling me what to do, man or woman. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948992005080444309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2845542372194388239.post-8733114684183032292014-07-14T18:42:28.975-07:002014-07-14T18:42:28.975-07:00Hi Jen. The argument goes something like this. Fir...Hi Jen. The argument goes something like this. First, congress is overwhelmingly male, federal and state, and these are the men that are actually passing these laws. We all agree on that. So, in a way, men have all the legal power over abortion and, in a way, control the debate. Second, like racism, the long history of the oppression of women even today is still not over. Somehow it spills over into this debate, but it's hard to pin down exactly how (just like racism; it permeates everything). Third, men do not have a right to have an opinion over this issue because it does not affect their bodies. That's where I think it goes too far; clearly men, especially fathers, are affected by this issue and should have a say. At the end of the day, it's men telling women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. I sympathize with the argument, but the major flaw that I see with it is that the views of women and men seems to be pretty much the same on abortion (about 50% for, 50% against).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14748192218402571363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2845542372194388239.post-74070968011279353562014-07-14T10:27:04.907-07:002014-07-14T10:27:04.907-07:00I never understood the argument about men trying t...I never understood the argument about men trying to control women's bodies. I just don't see it. Could you elaborate? This is Jen by the way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948992005080444309noreply@blogger.com